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楽しそうに話しているようなのでつい顔を出してしまうけど、話題から遠いので傍観やらせていただいているユーリーです
「◯◯村で××というキャラを使用した△△ってIDの人が参加を規制されてると本人の口から聞いたのですが、もし意図的に規制しているのであればその規制理由ってなんですか?」とでも訊けばいいんでないの。
「当事者同士の問題は当事者同士で村内で解決すべき」という価値観と「叩き行為はヲチスレやまとめサイトなどの匿名の書き込みで行われてきた」という歴史が融合した結果、外野があれこれ言いあうこと自体が悪、という倫理観が形成されている気がする。
marshalまとめページやjewelboxまとめページの批判が基本的に匿名で行われてきたという歴史も尾を引いている気がしている。
仮にゆかりさんはBAN太郎解放に肯定したとしても、僕のtwitter名にBAN太郎が含まれていて文字列をRTで見るのすら不快でブロックしてしまったアプリコットさんはBAN太郎解放に否定的である可能性が高い。
よく分からんがyukariさんも居ないし、月狼の管理人をやらせてもらっているアプリコットさんは見物人だな。
よく分からんのだが月狼の管理人をやらせてもらっているアプリコットさんが村に参加するなら管理系はyukariさんがやればいいんじゃねえの?
月狼の管理人をやらせてもらっているアプリコットさんが否定的だろうとなかろうと、yukariさんが使用していいと明言している以上関係ない話ではあるな。
223 名無しさん@ゴーゴーゴーゴー! (オッペケ Sr79-HNa2) 2019/04/19(金) 00:46:37.50 ID:W0RIsom0r
刑事事件にひっかかる可能性があるって話だ、そんなのも読み取れないなら黙っとけ無能
【見】 ブルゾンめりぃ side:E モンゴメリー
ということで村建てに質問を撒くわ
村建ては入村しますか?
管理人権限でIDを把握または絞れる状態にあったりしますか?
(102) 2018/03/01(Thu) 22:11:54
【見】 ブルゾンめりぃ side:E モンゴメリー
>>#5>>103
物騒なことになっているのね・・・
そして雑談村を私物化するのも心苦しい
というより憚られる内容でなければ
公表した方がいいと思う質問内容と判断したの。
例えば、村建てがIDを把握した状態でマネージャーをしていたら
情報格差にあたるかどうかとか、ということね。
村に関する質問自体、wikiで聞いた方がよかったかもしれないわね。
特に他で気になったことはなかったわ、回答ありがとう。
そしておやすみなさい。
(119) 2018/03/01(Thu) 23:02:34
管理人が入村するか否か、それによって情報格差が発生するのは問題ないのか、という話題がどういう理屈で私物化に当たると判断していたのだろう…。
役職希望:
役職希望有効
閲覧制限:
一般
村の方針:
推理あり
参加制限:
なし
役職希望有効村だし、
IDよりも役職希望なり進行中の役職じゃねえの。問題視するなら。
流星一条 ステラ
要するに中身が見られることでメタ情報になるのではって話よね?
そんなこと言ったら多分管理人はその権限において各人の役職や秘密会話(独り言等)まで見れると思うので、そこは信頼するしかないと思うのだけども
(120) 2018/03/01(Thu) 23:06:15
そして雑談村をヲチスレ化するのも心苦しい
というより憚られる内容でなければ
公表した方がいいと思う質問内容と判断したの。
【見】 ブルゾンめりぃ side:E モンゴメリー
>>#10>>120
気になる方は、とかそういう話じゃなくて、
以前のような管理人権限停止、副管に一時譲渡という形態なら、
参加者からの信頼を試すような真似をしなくて済んだのではと思ってたわ。
個人的には、管理人のマネージャーは見たいと思ってるから、
エピで「参加者のIDだけは知ってたけどね(てへぺろ」
くらいの気持ちで臨んでくれればと思ってるわ。
もちろん最終的には本人の意思を尊重してます。
(158) 2018/03/02(Fri) 08:24:56
【見】 ブルゾンめりぃ side:E モンゴメリー
思ってた以上によくない方向に話が進みそうだから、
私からは、表でのこの話は切り上げるわ。
最近の学生の試験前は、
ネットコミックの期間限定無料やアニメの一挙配信
とかスマホでの誘惑が多いのかしら。
(159) 2018/03/02(Fri) 08:25:13
管理人 真島
よっと。カイトはお疲れ様だ。
一応此方で簡単に触れておくが。
当国において、副管理人の管理権限は停止はできても、俺の権限は停止はできん。
そもそも、サーバー接続なり他全て俺が担っているので、止めてしまっては支障が出る。
ログインIDからの閲覧を止めたところで、サーバーデータ自体に自由に接続出来る立場な以上は、完全に切り離すことはそもそも不可能というな。
色々面倒な作業も多いのでなぁ……もとより仕事で多忙な部分もある緒方に、そこまではさせられんよ。
(1675) 2018/03/02(Fri) 08:34:08
apricotさんの月狼の管理をやらせてもらっている権限を停止したとして、yukariさんがapricotのさんの大切な友人である以上情報の横流しなんてやろうと思えばできるわけで、そこも信頼するしかないと思うのだが…。
シモンはレジーナやリーザと繋がっているかどうかはわからなかったが、apricotさんはyukariさんと確実に繋がっているのだから。
そもそもそれこそ前回の村ではapricotさんは管理人権限を維持したままでマネージャーをやりきり、特に大きな問題はなかったわけだが、yukariさんの以前のID把握については持ち出して批判する割には、どうしてapricotさんの前例は持ち出さないのだろう…。
「通常知り得ない情報にさえアクセス可能な管理人が管理下の国に参加する行為はルール上公平なのか?」という疑問自体は、長期人狼管理において急所な話題なのでこれを突きつけること自体は問題ないと思うのだけれど。
それにしても攻め方の筋があまりにも悪すぎた気がする…。
気持ちはめちゃくちゃ分かるのだけれど「めんどくせえ」という態度を露骨に示してしまったのは立ち回りをミスってしまっていた感はある。
そもそも管理用IDはadminとsubadminであってapricotにログイン中はその権限は存在しないので問題ない…のかどうかは実際わからないが、そこら辺は説明してもよかったんじゃないだろうか。
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