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村側としては人外が露呈で二人死んでてLWの可能性がある。
灰に潜伏狼ないし狐がおり残存縄1でいずれにしても吊る必要がある。
辺りやと思うんやけどな。
ジョーカー破綻した時点で現状LWではないと踏んでセレスト吊りに行ったんだと思うからそれはそれでいいけど。
【犬】 サモエド ブランカ
見てきたけど、サカキはセレストが攻められてるっぽく思ったから「部外者の意見とかどうでもいいしセレスト気にすんな」って意味で言ってて、ライラはサカキが掛け持ちしてたのを見て「村がどうでもいい」と言ったと思って怒ってんじゃないのそれ。
(87) きたきつね 2020/05/20(Wed) 20:22:53
【司】 司書 ライラ
ツイの方でも書いてはありますが私の書き方が悪かったのは私の落ち度ですが初心者と参加したくないと取られたのは大変不愉快です。
掛け持ち前提での参加はどう言った村か聞かずに参加を黙認した私にも非がありますがそこまでサカキに言われる筋はないですし、これから他の村に参加する際は掛け持ちはやめてください。
(92) 真知 2020/05/20(Wed) 20:40:54
>>21789の話って、相撲で言うと「立ち会い変化」なんじゃない?
真正面からぶつかると勝てないから「よける」のが立ち合い変化らしいんだけど、これは批判される模様。
>大相撲ではがっぷりと真っ直ぐ相手にぶつかるか、四つに組みに行くのを良しとする考えが一般的である。そのため、変化によって白星を挙げても評価されず、批判の対象となる場合がある。
>特に、横綱や大関が下位力士に対してこれを行ったり、大一番で行うと会場から野次やブーイングを受ける。
>下位力士の場合、一発勝負として使われることもあるが、これも繰り返された場合、「強くなりたいのならばやっては駄目」と識者から批判される。
<https://ja.wikipedia.org>
画面端の人を始めとする考察出さない派もコレに該当すると思う。
プロレスとかでも、相手の攻撃は「避けずに、受けないとダメ」みたいな話も聞いた事がある。
こういう価値観の人が日本で多数派なんだったら、それが正しいんじゃん?
民主主義的にも、多数決で物事を決める人狼ゲーム的にも。
よく分からんけどここまで出てきた誤解って基本相手が悪意のつもりで発言していると言う前提で読んでないと成立せんのでは?みたいなおかしみがあるな。
勿論、罵倒を目的としているのだから相手が悪意があるとかないとかそう言う観点はゼロ点の添削なのかもしれないが…。
というか、みんなで「なんか怪しいよね」って言ってるとゲームの趣旨とかコンセプトから外れるというか、ゲームとして成立しない気がするしな。
うーん。でも、麻雀でもFPSでも他のゲームでも当てはまっちゃうんじゃない?
人狼ゲーム固有の話や理由じゃない所に、踏み込みの甘さを感じてしまう。
あと、ガチガチにのめり込む人も居てもいいんじゃない?
モノポリーの世界選手権に出たり、そこで入賞した人に
>モノポリーはガチガチにのめり込むゲームじゃないと思ってます
>意識高くなればなるほど損するというか世間からどんどん浮いていくと思います
>モノポリー好きで毎日のようにモノポリーで遊んでるのはいいんだけど、モノポリーの研究したり練習してるの見ると引いちゃうんです
>カズレーザーが言ってました。モノポリーにのめり込めばのめり込む程就活には不利だって
とは私は言えないなぁ。
甲子園を目指してる高校球児に
>野球はガチガチにのめり込むスポーツまたはゲームじゃないと思ってます
>意識高くなればなるほど損するというか世間からどんどん浮いていくと思います
>野球好きで毎日のように野球で遊んでるのはいいんだけど、野球の研究したり練習してるの見ると引いちゃうんです
>カズレーザーが言ってました。野球にのめり込めばのめり込む程就活には不利だって
とも私は言えないなぁ。
LWCOを信じるか信じないかと言う話で言うとセレストの発言は大分県まずかったと思うんだけどな。
セレストの信用度はともかくとしてセレストLWの可能性は普通にあるんだから、ジョーカー狐と決め打って占い師ローラー開始するかセレストの内訳に無関係に灰に存在する可能性があるLWか狐候補を吊ってから占い師ローラーで終了するかの二択なんだから、セレストの信用度って盤面上ではそんなに関係ないと思うけどな。
勝機が十分あったのに負けたという意味では村陣営の落ち度が非常に大きい。
が、それにはセレストの言動が大きく影響している。
という3陣営村にたま〜に起こるややこしい状況。
少なくともどうでもいいって言った県と掛け持ちした県については大分県筋の違う話であるのにごっちゃにしているから知らんがな感が強いんだよな。
少なくともライラのセレストの呼びかけに対して「それってどうでもいい話じゃね?」と言ったことを、サカキの掛け持ちと絡めて「サカキ自身がどうでもいいと思って参加してる」のように解釈したのはかなりの超解釈だと思うのだけれども。
流れと関係無いけど、「食べる削り節」っておいしかったん?
試しに1回ぐらいは買って食べてみても良い感じ?
それとも、普通の鰹節・花鰹だから意味無い感じ?
ジョーカー破綻させてるのにセレストがLWCOするのが意味不明なので、破綻させたのはジョーカーでセレストが趣旨を理解してなかったって話なんかな。
セレスト自体もあの日に灰吊りになったらワンチャンあると思っていたらしいけど、どんなチャンスを想定していたのかがいまいち分からないな。
新着発言はありません。RELOAD最終取得時刻 --:--:--
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