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本を読まずにウィキペディアの「二分心」
<https://ja.wikipedia.org>
を見ただけで分からないと言ったり、分かったような気になってはいけないような気がするけど、本を読むのは大変でなぁ・・・( ̄▽ ̄;)
(Kindleとか自動で読み上げるようにするべき、と思ったら既に実装されていたらしい。)
「言語能力を持っていない頃の人類は全員統合失調症だった」とすると
「言語能力を持っていない生物は統合失調症だった」みたいな事になってしまうような。
「人類は言語能力を獲得した事で、『意識』が生まれた」って言われると、「もしかしたら、そうかも?」と思っちゃうんだけどね。
感覚的には「意識が無い生物は、本能とか条件反射で行動してる」と思うんだよね。「神々の声を聞き、それに基づいて行動してる」ように見える生物が思いつかない。
@猫は言語能力があり、意識もある
A猫は言語能力がなく、神々の声に基づいて行動している時もある。そして統合失調症である
Bその他
日本人的な感覚だと、「万物に神がやどり、心(≒意識)がある」みたいなのもあるよね。
理屈で考えると物とか道具には心も意識も無いんだろうけど、「Windowsに怒られた」とか「機嫌が悪そうだ」とか心や意識があるかのように言いがち。
チューリング・テストとか思い出す。
<https://ja.wikipedia.org>
>2014年6月7日、ロンドンのテストに「13歳の少年」の設定で参加したロシアのチャットボットであるユージーン・グーツマン(英語版)が、30%以上の確率で審査員らに人間と間違われて史上初めての「合格者」となった
アッハイ。いつのまに・・・。
いいも悪いもないけど。
多様な可能性に思いを巡らせられるのはのぶーの美点だと思うけど、枝葉も幹も同等の重みを持たせている風に見えるから「恐ろしい世界」と思うわけ。
「交差点にトラックが突っ込んでくる可能性」と「普通に渡れる可能性」が同程度に同居してたら日常が怖いだろ。
最終日とかに、「誰が狼の可能性も同程度にある。負けるかもしれないから、恐い。胃が痛い。」とか思った記憶無いで。
「真贋差はほぼ無くて、フラットかな」とか言ってても、本当にそう思ってる事はあんまり無い気がする。
どっちかっていうとオカルト信者だから、コインを投げて2回連続で表が出たら次は裏が出る確率が高いと思うタイプだよ。そこは同じ確率っていうのも、もちろん分かってるけど。
たぶんダブルミーニングになってないと上手い感じにならないんだよ。
<https://www.youtube.com>
「恥」だと画面端の人を表す言葉として適当だったり、↓この辺とかも掛かって来そうだし。
<https://jbbs.shitaraba.net>
ウィキペディアの説明しか見て無いから、なおさら分からないんだろうけど。
この作者のジュリアン・ジェインズも「最初は人の意識の起源の研究をしてたんだろう」けど、それを考える都合で「猿に意識はあるのか?猿に言語能力はあるのか?猿は人類なのか?」とかも考えたんじゃないかな。
「ホモ・サピエンスではない、ネアンデルタール人の遺体の側から花粉が見つかった事が何を意味するのか?意識ある?言語能力ある?人類?」とかも考えたんじゃないかな。
猿より前に遡ったり、霊長類以外の哺乳類についても考えたんじゃないかな。
ウィキペディアの二分身の関連書のタイトルに「ロボットが神々の声を聴くとき」とか書いてあるし。
なんか、この話で「フェルマーの最終定理」とか「大統一理論」とか「生命、宇宙、そして万物についての究極の疑問の答え」とか連想したよ。
「電気と磁力と重力は別なモノだから、別々に考えるべき派」と「全部一緒に考えるべき派」みたいな。
フェルマーの最終定理
<https://www.youtube.com>
大統一理論
<https://ja.wikipedia.org>
生命、宇宙、そして万物についての究極の疑問の答え
<https://ja.wikipedia.org>
生命、宇宙、そして万物についての究極の疑問の答え
>「四十二だと!」
>「まちがいなくそれが答えです。率直なところ、みなさんのほうで究極の疑問が何であるかわかっていなかったところに問題があるのです」
晋助さんって、「ゆーろさん」とか「さかけーさん」絡みの人なんじゃない?
<https://waoon.net>
コロナ対策で営業時間短縮って分かるようで、イマイチよく分からないんだよね。特にスーパーとかホームセンターとか。
店内やレジが混雑して、かえって密になってよくない気がする。
カインズとか夜8時まで営業→夜6時まで営業なんよ。
6時頃はレジが行列になるし、レジ待ちの人達がソーシャルディスタンス取ってても、その間を他の客がすり抜けて行く訳で・・・。
普通に夜8時まで営業した方が客が分散して、店内もレジも空くと思うんだよね。
【人】 女学生 夢
護衛指示なら考慮の必要は感じませんわ。
ヨルダお姉様なら然るべき場所を護衛してくださるはずです
(25) EliWhite 2020/05/12(Tue) 13:16:30
三日月836村の話をしてるの?
もしそうだとすると大分前に完全に終了してるので何か変な気がするし、違う村の話なのかなとも思うんだけど。
【独】 孤城の主 ヨルダ
3択なら護衛成功を出すよりもナタリア様護衛のほうがいいわね
3人の中からならメアリー様護衛ですけれど
グラーニャ様襲撃は怖くてできない筈ですわ
安全策なら名取様襲撃ね。名取様護衛をしていたとおっしゃっているのですもの。人狼側からのわたくしは名取様護衛しにくくなっているのだわ
(-31) royce 2020/05/12(Tue) 13:02:04
【独】 学園長の娘 名取
まったくよく分からんけど今まで被害者意識1本だけで人狼やってきた人なんかな…。
(-57) autoroguard 2020/05/12(Tue) 21:23:10
【独】 学園長の娘 名取
この界隈、対話が大事!とか言いつつ、自分の感情の話だけして対話が一切成立しないタイプの人、めちゃくちゃ多くない?
(-58) autoroguard 2020/05/12(Tue) 21:24:36
新着発言はありません。RELOAD最終取得時刻 --:--:--
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