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多分残った占い師を吊るかどうかの話だと思うので、狼が2騙りであり潜伏狂人がいるケースは目をつぶって投げても大体的に当たる程度の話だと思うのだよな。
逆に占い師を吊るのであれば2騙りや潜伏狂人のいる可能性とかその際のリスクについて考えないといけない(考えたら分かる問題でもないけど)と思うんだけど大体「狼だったら負けるから」で話が終わってしまうのでは。
吊らずに負けたから占い師残しは悪手とは思わんけど、それが成立するなら占い師残しがお得というのも成立しないのでは…。
0,5縄は具体的な数字だが敗北確定は縄数で言うといくつなのか問題があるし、狼2騙りの存在確率がどの程度と考えているかにもよるかもしれないが。
まとめ役なら村の温度感見て判断もできるし、0,5縄にがっつく必要ない状況なら吊りきってもよいわけで。
強化系のヤバい奴はゲームが成立するからまあいいけど、操作系や具現化系のヤバい奴はなんか違うゲームを始めたり持ち込みはじめてしまうからな…。
たらさんのは発生率と結果という2軸の組み合わせで考えるべきものを発生率を根拠に一択とするのはおかしいだろ(というかたらさんらしい)という話なので、画面端さんがそう考えているのはわかるけれども…となってしまう。
狂人と思いつつも吊るのって単に損切りとか妥協とかいう普通に存在する概念なので、それで99回損すると言われても…て思ってしまうな。
基本的には妥協点を作って損させていくのが人狼の戦略なのだから時にはリスクを取って決め打ちしなければならない、という話ならわかるのだが。
縄の価値もよく分かってなくて取り敢えず狼の可能性があるから吊ればいいとか言う認識の奴もいるから、個別にどうとも言えん気もするが。
知らんけど普通吊りになるはずの残された占い師が吊りにならなかったと言うことは狼側には都合が宜しかったとかなのでは。
ABCDEが狩人COして吊られた村もABCDE吊りは非常に人狼に都合が良かった…。
まあ、俺はかなりABCDE吊りに反対してたのでなんか違う気はするが。
真狩人が自分からCOしたのも人狼陣営に都合が良かった…。
誰も狩人COしてくれと頼んでもいなかったのでなんか違う気がするが。
とにかく、物事がすんなり行くときはそれは人狼側に都合が良いからだと言うことは頭の片隅に入れとかなくてはならない。
縄の価値が分かっていないという前提を導入するなら、とりあえず狼の可能性があるから吊るってのととりあえず狼の可能性が低いから吊らないってのとでは後者の方が致命的にヤバそうではあるが…。
画面端狼を決め打って必要のない指定占い宣言を行い、結果的に占い先襲撃を発生させてしまった占い師は確かにタイムアタック勢っぽい。
今の話に縄の価値を知らない前提がどう絡んでいるのかよく分からないがまあなんでもいいだろう。リーリの話はタイムアタックでもないような気がするが余計なことをしてると言う方向性では一緒だな。タイムアタックではないと思うが。
【独】 BBAって言うな フリスチーナ
過度な掛け持ちじゃなかったら大丈夫って聞いた
2村以上参加はしないようにしている・・・よ?
(-211) metheclipse 2020/04/26(Sun) 01:32:05
【独】 BBAって言うな フリスチーナ
いま在席しているのは月狼だけです
お願いします迷惑かけないので通報しないでください
(-212) metheclipse 2020/04/26(Sun) 01:32:38
【独】 BBAって言うな フリスチーナ
いまは体調崩していて、社会復帰に向けて療養中って設定です!!!!
(-213) metheclipse 2020/04/26(Sun) 01:36:09
療養中なのをアピールするのは好きにすればいいと思うけれど、療養中アピールする奴はもれなくヤバかったという記憶しかない。
新着発言はありません。RELOAD最終取得時刻 --:--:--
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