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よく分からんけど、暴言を指摘するのと暴言(ルール違反)を指摘するのとでは多少の隔たりがあるとか言う話なのでは。知らんけど。
チェスがスポーツなら、人狼もスポーツに「ケースバイケースで」含まれる気もするけどねー。
あと仕事に例えだしたのはriotさんじゃなくて、センなのでは?
<http://hrodvitnir.sakura.ne.jp>
駐在している審判が存在しないからと言って、プレイヤーが勝手にルール違反を指摘するのはウザくね?と言われたらそうですね。状況は知らんけど。
「なんだこのくそ不味いコーヒーは!こんなものコーヒーじゃねえ!!」と言いながら、店内の全てのコーヒーに唾を吐き捨てて帰る客はただの荒らしである。
コーヒーをひとつ。
唾を吐き捨てたのが自分のコーヒーのみなら、まあ非常にマナーが悪いが俺には関係ないのでよしとします。
コーヒーをひとつ。
↓どちらかと言えば、こっちの方が勢い余って話を盛ってしまったよう思う。
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呪術師 リェン
どんな場合でも進行中にルール違反を指摘するのはNG。
降りようかと思いましたよ。
(97) riot 2020/02/25(Tue) 08:21:53
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「どんな場合でも」なんて言えなくて、ケースバイケースだと思うんだよね。
ベタにありそうなケースだと情報欄に「actの推理利用は禁止」って書いてあるのに、actで●▼希望を出してしまうとか。
この場合は参加者同士で指摘しても特に問題が無いというか、日常茶飯事だと思うし。riotさんも「いや、審判(管理人や村建て)の判断・指示を仰ぐべきだ」とは思って無いと思うんだよねー。
riotさんの発言抽出しつつ、アンカを適当にチェックしてるけど、ここが問題発言なの?
<http://hrodvitnir.sakura.ne.jp>
>ついでに、本来、ルール無視のactに応えることはありませんが。
そもそも、実際にactの推理利用は禁止なのに行われて、riotさんもツッコミ入れてたのかな。
そんな事より、riotさんの暴言を見逃してしまったように思う。ので、ここからriotさんの暴言指摘act探し→riotさんの暴言探しという事になるのかな。
直近の>>15750は見てるけど、上のURLの「うざい」が事の発端ではなく、その前があるって事なんでしょ?
こういう事なのかー。
<http://hrodvitnir.sakura.ne.jp>
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座敷童 藤枝は、え、すみません。>>300うざいは暴言なのでとても心外です。謝罪してください。
(A96) 2020/02/19(Wed) 23:37:18
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座敷童 藤枝は、暴言は勝ち負け以前の事だと思うのですが。村建てさんのご意見伺いたいです。私はとても傷つきました。
(A97) 2020/02/19(Wed) 23:39:28
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<http://hrodvitnir.sakura.ne.jp>
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座敷童 藤枝は、は??相手が嫌がると言っていて、それを暴言と捉えてら何なんでそれ続けるんだ?流石に頭きたんだが
(A98) 2020/02/19(Wed) 23:45:06
【独】 産土神 キクヒメ
やれやれ。
エピってからのこの流れさえなければ、別にBANするほどでもないと副管理人からの言質も取ってましたのに。
私の苦労が水の泡ではありませんの。
(-38) master 2020/02/25(Tue) 08:53:09
よく分からんがルール違反かどうかは審判と言う専門職がいるのに、riot君自身はルール違反厨がいた場合は場合によってはゲームを降りてしまう裁量権を持っているのか。
なんかそんな奴ヲチスレによく居たよな。
ばあちゃんかなにか死んだことにして突然死したり萎え突は正義みたいな人たち。
ど、同一人物か…?
私が村建てだったら・・・
「リェンが謝ったら藤枝の気が済むなら、村建ての顔に免じて納得いかなくても形だけでいいので謝って欲しいです。
揉めるとゲームの進行に支障が出てリェンと藤枝以外の参加者が迷惑したり、リェンと藤枝(と何故か私)がBANになるかもしれないので・・・。
一方で『うざい』が暴言かと言われると、微妙だと思うけどねぇ・・・。『うざい』が暴言かどうかという話に脱線すると、ゲームの進行に支障が出る可能性があるから、そこ議論したかったらエピでって事で一旦脇に置いてね。」
とか言うかもね。
ちなみに、熊沢さんの見解としては「うざい」は暴言なの?
呪術師 リェン
>>-42
そもそも。
いや繰り返しなのですけど。
説明して理解を得られればよし。
理解されないならそれでいいじゃないですか。
それこそ私がここのルールってわけではないのですし。
(158) riot 2020/02/25(Tue) 09:06:22
ここら辺のやり取りを見るなら別に別垢で再度乗り込んで来そうでは無いのだけど。
暴言自体を重く見てのBANでは無さそうだし。
暴言厨は不快だ→不快なので不快なことをしてくる
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また同村したら不快だ→別垢でまた月狼に来る
こう言うことなのかな。
取り敢えず、月狼のルールを遵守して降りはしなかったriot君と萎え突をして勝ち誇ってる底辺人狼プレイヤー、どっちがヤバいか決めよう。
呪術師 リェン
ルール違反の指摘が違反だと思うならいちいち対話なんかしないで私自身が言った通り国主行きですよ。
どこを目指して話してるんですか?
ただの意見交換と賛同者か増えたらいいな以上の意味はないですよ。
(163) riot 2020/02/25(Tue) 09:11:49
【独】 右方舞 戸隠
/*待ってセンってうどんこさんってあのうどんこさん????
(-50) nli3 2020/02/25(Tue) 09:18:16
どっちかと言うとriotの暴言よりも、「え?そんな風に取るんですかあ?すいません、俺テレビとかあんま見ないんでえ^^」みたいな態度の方がイラっとした。
いや、暴言パート見てないから知らんけど。
まだ15ページだが、別にエピが汚れた印象はないが誰視点の話をしてるんだろう。
空気的にこの後、汚れる展開が訪れる気は全くしない…。
どちらかと言うと山吹の存在の方が気になる。
山吹がヲチスレで叩かれるのを防ぐためにriotと言う丁度良すぎて丁度よい逸材を出汁にした結果、このような不自然なスルー状態が発生しているに違いない。
ヲチスレで画面端が叩かれた時には、別に喋り方以外にそこまでなんもしていないddDdが同村していたと言うだけで叩かれたものだ。或いは全く同村してないのに画面端のついでに叩かれていたものだ。
こんなにも山吹が叩かれないのはおかしい。
新着発言はありません。RELOAD最終取得時刻 --:--:--
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