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そんなことでゆーろさんが伯爵を使ってアクションを取るかは定かではないけど、WDさんを攻めるには「ゆーろさんに伯爵をけしかけられて村を荒らされたのを忘れたのか!」と言うのは非常に有効…。
らす
@luxx_kohcha
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3月11日
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@whitedingo28
人狼本質論、中継狼は君の造語じゃないし、めいしーさんと俺が研究してきた概念やろ。
あんま下手なこと言わんほうがええぞマジで。これでオリジナル名乗るとか正気か?
韓国のフェミニストが#拷問AV タグを使った時にそれを発案した日本のフェミニストがそれは私が作ったものだ、と主張したよりは少なくとも筋が通っている気がする。
中継狼と言う概念が革新的画期的であればあるほど、発案者の怒りに共感できなくはないと思うのだがそこまでではないな…と言う感じだな。WDさんが悪意や顕示欲のためにやったのかもよくわからないし。
どっちかと言うと、「WD君は当時も中継狼はすごい!みたいな事を吹聴してゆーろにピカチューけしかけられて村荒らされたでしょ。」が革新的なので、今後らす理論でディベートするときは出典元を明記したい。
ただ「自己顕示欲なのか知らないけれど、もし意図的にやったのであれば危険な道に進み始めてるからやめたほうがいいよ。そうじゃないならお節介でごめんね。」とでも言えばまだ同意を得られたであろうところを、
悪意があると決めつけ+自分やめいしーさんは被害者であるという主張+バチが当たるだろという具体性のない批判+事実とは言いがたい代行者村荒らし理由による追撃、という4重の悪手を踏んでしまっていただけだから…。
意図的な剽窃、それこそ勝海麻衣騒動のように、大きくなるとバチ当たりどころではなくなる可能性があるので芽を摘もうとしたのであればそれはいいのだが…。
意図的であると断定するのが早とちりであった。
yukariさんが月狼BAN太郎を月狼国に対する挑発、侮辱行為と決めつけてしまったのと似たようなもんだな。
言葉のあやだとは思うが「中継狼はすごい!」と吹聴することは別に良いのではないかな…「中継狼を考えた俺はすごい!」だったら問題はありそうだけど。
中継狼がすごい!と言っててゆーろさんに荒らされたのなら中継狼論だとか中継狼の発案者が誰かとかではなく、WDさんが単に空気読めてなかっただけに見えるし。
それ以上にBAN太郎解放運動自体が月狼国への挑発行為、侮辱行為、ネガティブキャンペーンと捉えられてしまう可能性があるという致命的な問題点があるな。
仮に月狼の管理人をやらせてもらっているアプリコットさんの権限で使用不可能になってるなら一言yukariさんか、月狼の管理人をやらせてもらっているアプリコットさんから説明するべきなんだよなあ。
まあそれはこちらが使わないと一度意思表示をしたうえ、悪意によるものという判断の取り消し後にも「だったら使う」とは言ってないので使われないものとして説明を省いたというのが実情なんじゃないだろうか。
もうTwitterアカウント名もBAN太郎じゃないけどブロック取り消されてないしな。「見逃してはやるが許しはしねえ」という意思表示なのかもしれない。
少なくとも月狼BAN太郎に関してはyukariさんよりも優先される月狼の管理人をやらせてもらっているアプリコットさんの見解が出ていない現状だとyukariさんの見解が月狼国の見解になるので、月狼BAN太郎解放運動を月狼国に対する挑発、ネガティブキャンペーンと見なすのは強権、弾圧行為なんだよなあ。
まあゆかりさんの見解が使用OKなのか、アプリコットさんの見解がゆかりさんの見解より優先されているのかについては憶測の域を出ないので…。
むしろ一度出した見解に細かい指摘をする行為は、かつての瓜科でのtohkaさんのように管理人の心労になり、「今の私の心労はあなたですよ」宣言を食らう可能性がある…パンドラの箱だ。
基本的に月狼の管理人をやらせてもらっているアプリコットさんの権限見解がyukariさんより下か同等ってことはないでしょ。
yukariさんの月狼BAN太郎使ってもいい発言、自信満々だったので「これ外れてたら死んでもいい/違ったら命かけてもいいよ。」と見栄張ったは良いものの全然外れてたみたいなダサさを感じるのだが気のせいだろうか。
いまいちこちらが本気でお怒り度を受け取れていなかった時点で挑発行為ではないことに気づいてほしかった…という気持ちがなかったかと言われると嘘になる。
相手の反応見て自分の疑い方が正しいと言う方向にしか解釈できない、または反応が見れないタイプの人狼プレイヤーが副管理人をやっている月狼人民共和国と言う国とそれを信じきっている搾取されるためだけに生きている住民達の図。
kimaやドドリアですら相手の反応はちゃんと見ているのだぞ…。
kimaの場合、ガチものだと勘違いされたのか完全に戦意喪失してkimaが思ったような反応が取れない…みたいなケースはそこそこ見られるにしても。
そもそも「誤解を与えたかもしれませんがBAN太郎は月狼国へ迷惑をかけるための名前ではありません」という論法を用いた以上、BAN太郎の使用権の解放を求めたところで「誤解を与えたかもしれませんがBAN太郎の使用許可はこういう背景がある以上できません」という返しをされたら何も言えなくなってしまうというジレンマがある。
目には目を、歯には歯を。
誤解には誤解を。
ゆかりさんもBAN太郎が挑発行為ではなかったとしても本気で解放する気があったようには見えない…。
あとは柚子昆布茶君がBANされた時は、最終的は判断は真島(アプリコットさん)ではなく緒方(ゆかりさん)が行っていたので、少なくとも違反行為が見られたユーザーへの対処の判断についてはアプリコットさんに優位性があるというわけでもなさそう。
僕の対処については、アプリコットさんはもう一切触れたくないのでゆかりさんに一任した…という形のような気がしている。
ゆかり@yukarimeka
@_yukari
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2018年5月21日
極論言えば、そのアカウント名、使いたければ使ってくださって結構ですよ。
そのアカウント名を作った理由や意図、使いたい理由などをキッチリ説明していただければ。
確かに熊沢さんが使いたいと言っていないので当てはまらないかもしれないが、少なくとも使える状態にはしておくべきじゃないのかな。
新着発言はありません。RELOAD最終取得時刻 --:--:--
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