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良く分からんけどqootarara語で「丸く終わらせたい」は「丸く収めたい」と言う意味ではなく、直前の「スッキリ(終わらせたい)」 と言う意味の慣用句なのでは?
さらにいえば「1番は村負けたこと」なんて付け加えてしまったせいで「勝ってたら文句言わなかったのか?」みたいなツッコミどころを作ってしまっているので、それなら言わない方が良かったように見える。
まあ1番は、掛け持ち参加に気づいてしまってそのことで溜め込んだ私(と比護)がスッキリしたい…丸く終わらせたい、と思うからなんだが。
やはり「村負けたこと」は言わなくていい気がする…。
ggrks同盟が何を目的とし何を行う同盟なのか分からない以上、欠番の定義を論じても仕方ないのでは…という気はしてきた。
【独】 弥勒
エピの雰囲気壊したらすまんな。私と比護+某PLから舞へ言いたい(お願い)がある。
村が負けたのは仕方ない。舞だけの責任じゃない。それに関しては私は怒ってはない。
ただ、私と比護が怒っているのは『参加態度(村掛け持ち)』の件だ。
勝手ながら私と比護の2人で舞のことを調べさせてもらったんだが。
この村進行中、短期村に複数回参加していただろう?
「村負けたの納得いかない。舞に関してはそれ(短期村掛け持ち)してたからまともに考察できてないんじゃないか?両立するならまだしも、私たちからは出来てるように見えない。」と比護と話していたよ。
ここだけじゃなく、過去の村でも複数回短期村に参加してるってことも加味してね。
(-198) qootarara 2019/04/01(Mon)
ggrks同盟は状況もしくは発言的に、少なくとも人狼ではないだろうな…と言う要素が多々あるにもかかわらず、理解不能な発言をトリガーに吊られることが多いプレイヤーで構成されている。
別に人狼ではないだろうな、と言う要素がなくても構わないが、仮にそう言う要素があっても吊られかねないと思えそうなら尚優遇である。
短期の「人狼」の掛け持ちをNGとすると、
なら他ゲーを優先して人狼の時間が取れないのはOKなのか、リアルで遊ぶ予定を入れるのはOKなのか…みたいな話になってくるのでどこかでバグが発生しそうな気はしている。
なんか深海国(赤)辺りで短期ばっかやってて長期で実質参加してない状態になってたプレイヤー(真占い師)が非難されてたケースを見たことがあるけど、どの村だったかな。
「この村に参加するなら仕事を辞めて18時間張り付いてください。就寝時間もGMが指示します」みたいな村が出てきてもおかしくはない…。
掛け持ちが良いか悪いか、村の敗因はなんだったのか、の議論の余地があるかないかはともかく、少なくともそのことでqootararaと話をするのは時間の無駄な気がしてならない。
1つの村に参加している限りなら限界は越えているが掛け持ちではない。短期村なりに参加した時点で正式に限界を越えた掛け持ちになる。
<http://hrodvitnir.sakura.ne.jp>
この村のこの日のautoroguardさんはリア充プロローグとの掛け持ちを非難されても言い返せないな…。
・限界を超えている
・掛け持ちである
たしかにこの2つの条件を同時に満たさないとルールに抵触しない…という定義ならばそういう解釈になるな。
【独】 弥勒
両立できる、なら私もそれを止めはしない。私も過去2.3回頭リセットのために短期村入ったことある身だから。(回数この辺うろ覚え)
だが、私と比護、某過去村参加してた方1人が上記の話を知っていて、「両立ができてない。」「不快。」「ショックがでかい。」と怒り憂いている。
私は元々短期系村出身なんで掛け持ちに対してゆるい部分があるんだろうな、と感じるが。
掛け持ちの村が「短期村」だから30分〜3時間で終わるような負担軽めのものだしなあ…。
私は掛け持ち(両立できるなら)許すタイプだが、長期PLで「短期でも掛け持ち絶対許さない」っていう人は見たことあるし。
まあ…要は、「両立出来るならいいけど、村両立出来てない(長期村の方を疎かにしている、手を抜いている)ように見えるので、以後控えて欲しい。」というお願いな。
(-199) qootarara 2019/04/01(Mon)
nobumasaの場合は、「自分は既に限界を越えているので掛け持ち時における低パフォーマンスは掛け持ちによるものではなく限界だからである。」と思っている節があるのでそれは違うだろう、とは思っているよ。
元々のパフォーマンスが限界迎えてる奴が、元々のパフォーマンスを維持すれば限界を越えた掛け持ちではない、と言う理屈は少なくとも同村者に通じる余地はないと思うな。
両立云々に関しては、笑顔白熊君の掛け持ちしてないログと今回のログの比較が必要な気がするな。
その証拠を持ってきたのであれば笑顔白熊君は長期と短期の両立は出来ないというqootarara理論は証明されるのだけれども。
なので笑顔白熊君に証拠提出を求めても良かった気がする。
「少なくとも笑顔白熊君のプレイングは掛け持ちしてなくても限界なので、掛け持ちなんかしないでほしい」という残酷な話になってくる可能性はなくはない。
両立云々は主観にもよるので、その人のパフォーマンスに不満があれば両立できてない認定される危険性はあるな…判定する人間が人狼やってるような奴なら尚更。
そいつがツイッター上で常に誰かを反日認定してたり安倍政治を許さなかったり、男の時代は2019年続いていると男性社会を非難しているような奴なら尚更である。
俺がqootararaと同村した村はqootararaのプレイングが酷かったので「集中ができてない」「不快」「ショックがでかい」と感じたな。
まあ、俺は敵陣営だったのでqootararaとめいつのゴミプレイのおかげで勝ったのでいいのだが。
男の時代は2019年続いている!と言う主張は男尊女卑に対する非難と言うよりキリスト教に対する非難にしかなっていない気がするな。
個人的には舞(笑顔白熊君)の発言量が減っていったのは掛け持ちではなく笑顔白熊ってるだけに見えるので、掛け持ちをなくしたところで変わらんだろ…という感はあるのだけれども。
短期村にどの程度参加してたのかは知らんし笑顔白熊君がどんな参加態度だったのかも知らんのでそこら辺はなんとも言えない。
最終日に舞のアウトプットが明らかに少ない件に関しては、どう見ても時間が取れないのではなく本人のプレイングが原因のような気がする。
そんなことより、qootararaともう一人の連れが笑顔白熊君の短期参加を調べるに至った経緯の方が気になるのだが。
【独】 針山[close]
掛け持ちが良いとは思ってないが、
長期村に参加する際にどこまで他の趣味との両立が許されるんだろうなとは思う。
TRPGのオンラインセッションとか、
漫画読み耽るとか、
友人との飲み会とか。
(-208) chabi 2019/04/01(Mon) 08:27:02
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