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該当村アンリエッタ>>2:32
こういう村的感情の機敏にサツキがノータッチだったのは▼リアルも事実でしょうけど、騙り故の保留意識でしょうね
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こういう村感情の機敏にサツキ(山吹)がノータッチだったのは、(リアル事情があるというよりは)騙り故の保留意識でしょうね
みたいに書き換えができる
普通にアンリエッタはサツキの体調不良について触れずに推理文を書いたほうがよかったと思う
この部分は真占いの主張のほうが正しいと思うわ
ダックワーズ アンリエット
本当に不在であれ、そうでないであれ
人狼における考察とは可能性の提示です
それが本当かもしれないと意見し、議論するものです
サツキの気持ちは理解しますが、▼リアルだから寡黙という要素を黒要素としてはならないと言っているに等しいのですよ?
(17) makara14 2020/08/14(Fri) 08:19:02
4.メタ要素について
メタ(meta)とは、「超〜」「高次〜」といった意味合いを含む英語の接頭辞です。
人狼ゲームにおいては、通常の議論で入手出来る範囲を超えての情報がもたらす推理、議論を主に指します。
推理村においては、全員が同じ条件、同じ情報を元に推理することが前提です。
村外での情報やりとりを行うこと、村外で得た情報を元に推理することは控えて下さい。
判定文をそのままコピーして発言すること、意図的に誤爆を装うこと、希望無効村以外で役職希望に言及することも禁止です。
また投票や占い先に関してはデフォルトのセット先は毎日ランダムで選出されるものです。
判断可能な要素とはなり得ません。
議論ではそういったシステム部分は用いず、あくまで発言において主張して下さい。
メタ要素を含む発言が村内で発生した場合、「真でも偽でも(人でも狼でも)有り得ること」として、他部分から推理していくことを推奨します。
メタ要素はそれを指摘、追求することによって、さらなるメタ推理を招いてしまう恐れがあります。
過度な追求は行わないようお願いします。
・意図的寡黙について
戦略的に考えての行動であれば賛否両論あると思いますが、管理側からは「非推奨行為」であるとだけ明言させていただきます。
当人が戦略的な行動であると主張しても、客観的にそれが認められるかどうかはまた別の話です。
慎重な判断を要する部分であるとは、理解してください。
たとえ戦略的な意図があったり、効果があろうとも、同村者達がどう思うかもまた別です。
他者を不快にさせるような部分は避けて欲しいという思いもあります。
最終的な判断は各PLに委ねることとはなりますが、なるべく問題が起こらぬよう、円滑な村進行にご協力ください。
なお、全てのケースで当て嵌まる訳ではありません。
たとえば破綻した騙りが突然死回避発言のみだったり、狼で吊られることが確定した後に情報遮断で意図的に発言を少なくする場合などは、非推奨とはしません。
また、上記はあくまで「意図的寡黙について」の話であり、それ以外のケースについてはまた別となりますので、ご了承ください。
ごめんアンリ正しくないわ
サツキの体調不良には触れずに推理する
寡黙にかんしては、鯖管のルールに準拠していることを想定してわざとやっているものではないことを想定する
これがたぶん月狼国で遊ぶときのスタンスでいいんじゃないかな?
月狼国で村建てるときのテンプレ作っている
荒らしの滑り込みを防ぐため、前日の24時までに16人集まっている翌日の7時に開始いたします。
・相談時間はなしです。
・立会い不要です。
・actの推理利用・ネタ利用は禁止です。act使用は離席・在席やその予定の連絡、誤字脱字・アンカーの訂正のみ可能とします。
・中身要素からの推理を禁止いたします。
・その他は鯖のルール、推奨行為に準拠します。
月狼国の仕様を確認しながらテンプレ作成しているのだけれども
短期の妖狐は、長期のコウモリ人間に相当するという言い方が正確
短期だと夜時間に妖狐同士で会話できる
別にサツキが不愉快なのは仕方ないにしても、それ自体がアンリエットが推理を取り下げる理由として成立するかというと、別にそうはならないだけですね。
アンリエットはサツキのリアル事情を把握しているわけでも、把握しなければならないわけでもないのだし。
むしろ推理としての質ではなく不愉快だとかリアル事情を考慮しろとかいう論で押してくるってことは、リアル事情を考慮してもらうために意図的に自分からメタ情報を漏らしてるってことだろ…としか思えないけどな。
山吹さんの村にはいかないようにしよう
たぶん自分とは合わない気がする
かかわらないことでお互い幸せになれると思う
自分が正しくないのは分かるのだけれども
サツキに対しては人狼やっているときに体調を崩すのが意味不明だし、それを言い訳にするのはもっと意味不明って気持ちにしかならない
自分が間違っているのは分かっているのだけれども
サツキさんを責めているわけじゃないです
酒呑んべが二日酔いは醒ますものだから、二日酔いになるやつは意味不明と言っているのとあんまり変わらないです
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・中身要素からの推理を禁止いたします。
この文面だと思想の自由を否定しているけれど、これ以外の表現をしようと思うと文字数増えるのでこのままにしたいと思います
ぱっとみたときに2窓のメモかそうじゃないかの判定がめんどうなので、IDに関する発言は独り言でも落としちゃだめが管理しやすいと思う
風雅は狂人だと思ってたから狼なのは意外だったな。
確かにきいろんの狼ならああいう動きにはなるのかもしれないけれども。
果たして「嫌い」と「プレイスタイルが嫌い」の差をメスクリ君自身がきちんと分別できているかについてはおうちの人と一緒に考えてみましょう。
なんとなくなんか苦手ってくらい言語化できないような苦手さ具合
それでいて真知さんから自分の発言の姿勢があんま好きじゃないと言われてしまうし
最初同村したときに関していえば、真知さんとはお互いプレイスタイルがなんとなく好きじゃない同士ではありましたね
なんか、今読み返してもなんかやべえ怪物を生み出したな、と思うし
風雅みてると……
いい感じにやばいから村理論
2-1が弱い形かどうかは怪しいけれど、狼真-真+C潜伏の形にしたのは結構レアだな。
占い師決め打ちでも狙ったんかな。
離宮と風雅の非ラインが拾われていたけれど、ソーレの狩人COで相当話が変わったはずなので、ソーレCO前なら風雅が切り捨てられ役のつもりだった可能性はあるだろって思っていた。
でも離宮吊り白ならC潜伏なしって状況が判明するのはデカいので、あそこは離宮吊っておいたのは間違ってなかったと思う。
新着発言はありません。RELOAD最終取得時刻 --:--:--
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